I like the graphic. That is funny. LOL. I wish I could shit a rainbow too. LOL
Yeah I went out like a month ago and bought an acoustic guitar at a guitar shop. (cheap one)
I am not very good at playing it as of yet but I keep trying. I do it just for fun.
I am teaching myself some chords and just strumming around to have some fun basically; but I don’t think I will ever really get good at it. lol. But after spending some time trying to learn some chords and get familiar with the guitar I am coming to realize just how talented a person has to be
to be a really good guitar player. Its not that easy to be a good guitar player.
anyway Alan I remember hearing some of the music you posted the other day and it was really good. Keep jamming. Post some more tunes when you get a chance it livens up the forum.
Music can be very therapeutic.
Congrats on joining the guitar world. I like to quote Mitch Hedberg “I decided to teach myself guitar, turns out I didn’t know how to play, so I was a lousy teacher. I would not go to me”
I bought a Crafter 6 string acoustic guitar. I dont know the model or anything. Its a simple guitar. I paid 250 bucks for it. I owned a fender acoustic guitar some years ago… until it got stolen in front of my apartment. I left it outside for a little bit while I walked around to get my car and net thing you know it was gone. So I have played a little bit before. I teach myself buy reading up on the chords. You know they have the little chord charts where they show you how to put your fingers for each chord. I can play pretty decently for a guy who never took a lesson in my life. I basically strum the thing with chords and little variations of chords and make up my own little tunes. I have no intentions of becoming a “real guitar player” I just basically am trying to learn to play rythms and little dodads that I make up. But I seem to sometimes get to a place where I cant progress more. I have trouble with the Bar Chords. I cant seem to get that one finger all the way across and hit the other places with the other fingers. So I have to work on that until I can do it. I like Rock N Roll and also Alternative Rock N roll.
You could get guitar pro 5 and start reading tablature too. That’s sort of the easiest way to learn how to play songs, and you end up practicing chords too.
Yeah, bar chords suck. I improvise lol. Anyways easiest song ever Tom Petty- Free Falling, chords are A-D pause D-A-E all down stroke, 1 stroke per chord. Now you’re rocking.
That’s a sweet guitar. I remember i wanted a schecter hellraiser too, but they didn’t sell them over here. As for the ec ltd, a former band mate had an ec50 (which is low end, right after the starter kit guitars)… honestly? played amazing, the neck was crazy comfortable. If i ever get another guitar, it’s going to be a ltd ec.
Schecter/ESP are sister companies. So the neck profile is almost always that thin C. It’s an EC -50 I’m getting. Just want to do a repaint, better tuners, custom pickups and an EMG afterburner.
That’s not completely true (the neck thing), but i did know about schecter/esp, the funniest thing is that they sort of tried to deny that for the longest time, lol. I owned a esp eclipse and the neck was pretty different from the ec neck, almost unplayable to me (thin, but way too protruding). The schecter hellraiser supposedly has that same neck. I had an esp m2 too, that had a ridiculous, almost ibanez like thin neck, which i hated, lol. The ec50 i tried was like a mid point between the eclipse and the m2, and FTR it’s an excellent idea to put emgs into it, because those don’t depend much on the resonance of the wood. Hell, you could put emgs into a broom and it’d rock, lol.
I might be falling into heresy here, but to this date the most comfortable neck i’ve played is a slim taper neck on a epiphone les paul standard. Sure, the guitar was crap, but the neck was really comfty, lol.
I had a Schecter Avenger, that neck was like my Hellraiser. The other day I played an F-50 LTD felt the same. I guess I just assume the only carved one neck profile.
To clarify I won’t be putting EMG pickups in the LTD, in fact, I’m really looking at GFS Liverpool’s. I will add an EMG afterburner. It’s a push/pull with up to 20db of gain. Like a built in overdrive.
My schecter has EMG, really wanna make the LTD more versatile, but still ballsy.
The last Les I played was a Gibson, with the all axcess neck. Compared to a PRS and a Hellraiser. Bet you can guess which I liked lol?
I’d be at a loss if i have to guess, but i’ll try… the hellraiser? lol. I always wanted a gibson les paul (damn you slash), but i wouldn’t be able to deal with the weight of it, even less with the PRICE of it, lol. For that price you can get a nice japanese vintage les paul, which will give gibson les paul a run for it’s money in most cases.
Point taken. Since i haven’t read up on emgs products in quite a while i thought the afterburner was a pickup, lol. I have passive seymour duncans on my guitar, sounds a lot more lively but you get lots of noise (thank god for decent noise gates). I remember the emg81s were ridiculously silent, i do miss that.
I do want a PRS at some point, one of my favorite guitar players plays one, and my back would actually agree with the weight of one of those (my wallet would disagree tho). But yeah… i’m looking at at least 7 more years of waiting if i want one of those. That and a few years of eating instant noodles daily afterwards, lol.
The Gibson quality vs price is absurd. No way. PRS are nice, if they’re your style. A few can be gotten for around a grand US money.
I had Seymour Invaders in my Avenger. Mighty fine. In fact, that audio clip I posted forever ago was my Avenger through a digitech into the AUX in on a radio. Ghetto.
I’m currently debating between a Peavey Valveking ii or the 6505 …. unless something tickles me tomorrow.
If your comfortable modding your stuff, check out Guitar Fetish they got a 2.5watt amp that installs in your guitar, just plug in headphones. Or tons of effects and shit too. It’s all stupid cheap.
I do mod my stuff (well, electronics mostly, not my guitars), but i do own ones of these (even if it makes me kinda ashamed to own it…lol): chorder.com/images/reviews-articles/6063-desktop.jpg which would be the equivalent of a guitar with a guitarfetish modboard (it has a built in distortion and speaker).
Back when i got it i thought i was going to need a portable sort of thing (long story, ex gf) and ended up using it rarely, not because it’s a bad guitar, but because i’m sort of like a recluse, lol.
As for the amp, it might not be your cup of tea, but have you looked into stuff like kemper’s profiling amp? i got one of those two years ago (funnily enough, because i was offing myself and said fuck it, i’ll enjoy my last months) and it honestly killed all the gas i used to have almost daily, lol.
It’s such a trip that you’re having this conversation.
Today I had a conversation with a guy who was sitting in a chair behind a desk. In the seat next to him was a 1962 Gibson Les Paul. (It was white). I said “whoa. Is that a vintage Les Paul”?
He said “yes”.
This guy is a collector, he’d just spent $3,600 today buying that guitar. He looks for
1) Guitars that he likes
&
2) Guitars that will appreciate in value over time.
Very cool guy. He told me he owns 48 guitars, loves ’em all, and he doesn’t plan to lose a dime on any of them. It’s like collecting fine art or 1960’s era American muscle cars, ya know? Hang on to your investments, enjoy/use them, and you’ll get your money back down the road.
For the record I’m not a Gibson LP person but I do understand why they’re so popular.
I did some YouTube searches for some of these guitars you guys are talking about and man. Really cool stuff. Guitars are really cool especially if you can afford a nice one and an amp and all the effects and so forth.
I am traditionally a drummer. But I don’t play drums anymore. Drums are too loud and they are expensive too. lol. I cant have a drum set where I live as I am in an apartment with other apartments all around me. So that is when I thought of just buying and acoustic guitar just to bang around on.
Its fun. Guitar is sweet fun.
Definitely. Drums look fun, but everyone knows guitarist get all the ass… lol
I still don’t have an amp again, but soon.. check out guitar lesson dot com. It’s free, the lessons are short and sweet. The blues lessons are really good.
Yeah you are right. Guitarists get the chicks.. and singers get even more chicks if you got a great voice and are a decent looking dude too. But me. Well. I cant sing very well. I do Karaoke once in a while and have fun but Im not a real singer. LOL
I dont think I will ever be a great guitarist. but just to have some fun. I find playing guitar is relaxing. I just like strumming chords and picking around and its just something different to do once in a while. I spend a lot of time with computers.. but once in a while you need to do something different. Thats why I bought the guitar. Its just something different to learn about and have fun. I have no intentions of trying to be the next eddie van halen. lol but its fun to try. lol
You could always get one of those electric drum kits, they make little noise. I had a set for a while which i sold (money issues, never got to learn much) and i never got complains from my neighbors (my walls are paper thin). I don’t have an amp either, lol. Headphones and an amp sim for me, otherwise i’d get kicked out, lol.
Damn. I wrote a big long comment then pressed the wrong button and it was deleted. I’ll try again.
Barre chords messed me up at first. My guitar teacher told me to keep my pointer finger perfectly straight, turn the finger slightly so the bony part contacts the fretboard (not the fleshy part), and keep the barring finger as close to the fret without crossing the line. (Right next to F# on an F chord without crossing over).
It kind of feels like you’re “posing” when you finally get it right, but man, it sounds great and you’ll feel a tremendous surge of accomplishment after you play it clean for the first time. After awhile it’ll get ingrained into your muscle memory.
Mastering barre chords will really take you to the next level when it comes to playing rhythm guitar. You’ll be able to slide up and down the fretboard playing 6 string chords quickly. Works great if you like a full sound with quick transitions.
Yeah, I should take the time but in so many songs, they’re replaceable. For instance, one of the first songs I learned was Mr.Jones by Counting Crows. Replace the F with Fmaj7 and boom, done.
Seether fine again, uses a B chord, make it a B5.
I’m full of terrible advice. Try this one, chord changes too slow? Add 2 mute strokes in between. Fills that awkward dead space.
Remember kids, if you mess up, just keep messing up so it sounds intentional.
Thanks for the tips on the Bar Chords. Yeah I have been frustrated over them. Because as you say > that is like the next level I need to get to. I have most of the other chords down and I do little variations of them too and I can go from Chord to chord pretty good too. But dam those bar chords haven’t come around yet. But I bet I will get there someday.
I can pick pretty good. but my fingering on the neck needs some work. I have to like look at the strings in order to land them correctly. I haven’t been able to just feel my way around like the pros do yet > but it takes time. I am still into the part of getting my fingers adjusted to the strings. I play for a while until my fingers are all beat up. Then rest a few days then go at it again. I am hoping my fingers adapt to being able to bang on the strings and not hurt to much. I guess that comes with time. I love how you can just go to YouTube and get a lot of videos of people doing tutorials on how to play different songs. I think that is very helpful because I like to learn by seeing something done. Thanks for the tip. Someday I will record myself strumming some chords and post it here just for fun. LOL People will probably leave the forum. HA HA
You know what kills me about those YouTube videos? I’ll see an eight year girl shredding Metallica or Avenged Sevenfold, and I firmly believe I’ll never be as good as her.
And she’s an 8 year old girl!
Dammit. I should have started playing when I was 2 or 3.
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I like the graphic. That is funny. LOL. I wish I could shit a rainbow too. LOL
Yeah I went out like a month ago and bought an acoustic guitar at a guitar shop. (cheap one)
I am not very good at playing it as of yet but I keep trying. I do it just for fun.
I am teaching myself some chords and just strumming around to have some fun basically; but I don’t think I will ever really get good at it. lol. But after spending some time trying to learn some chords and get familiar with the guitar I am coming to realize just how talented a person has to be
to be a really good guitar player. Its not that easy to be a good guitar player.
anyway Alan I remember hearing some of the music you posted the other day and it was really good. Keep jamming. Post some more tunes when you get a chance it livens up the forum.
Music can be very therapeutic.
Congrats on joining the guitar world. I like to quote Mitch Hedberg “I decided to teach myself guitar, turns out I didn’t know how to play, so I was a lousy teacher. I would not go to me”
What if I may ask, did you pick up?
What chords you learning? What music do you like?
I bought a Crafter 6 string acoustic guitar. I dont know the model or anything. Its a simple guitar. I paid 250 bucks for it. I owned a fender acoustic guitar some years ago… until it got stolen in front of my apartment. I left it outside for a little bit while I walked around to get my car and net thing you know it was gone. So I have played a little bit before. I teach myself buy reading up on the chords. You know they have the little chord charts where they show you how to put your fingers for each chord. I can play pretty decently for a guy who never took a lesson in my life. I basically strum the thing with chords and little variations of chords and make up my own little tunes. I have no intentions of becoming a “real guitar player” I just basically am trying to learn to play rythms and little dodads that I make up. But I seem to sometimes get to a place where I cant progress more. I have trouble with the Bar Chords. I cant seem to get that one finger all the way across and hit the other places with the other fingers. So I have to work on that until I can do it. I like Rock N Roll and also Alternative Rock N roll.
You could get guitar pro 5 and start reading tablature too. That’s sort of the easiest way to learn how to play songs, and you end up practicing chords too.
Yeah, bar chords suck. I improvise lol. Anyways easiest song ever Tom Petty- Free Falling, chords are A-D pause D-A-E all down stroke, 1 stroke per chord. Now you’re rocking.
Also, a trick I do on the infamously impossible F chord, leave the high e open, makes it a Fmaj7 and I’ve never once been called out on it.
I second the questions above, and also have to ask, what guitar are you getting Alan? got me curious, heh.
Low end LTD single cutaway EC series.
My main baby is a Schecter Hellraiser Solo-6, neck through, EMG 81/89…,so the LTD is going to get gutted and hot rodded
That’s a sweet guitar. I remember i wanted a schecter hellraiser too, but they didn’t sell them over here. As for the ec ltd, a former band mate had an ec50 (which is low end, right after the starter kit guitars)… honestly? played amazing, the neck was crazy comfortable. If i ever get another guitar, it’s going to be a ltd ec.
Schecter/ESP are sister companies. So the neck profile is almost always that thin C. It’s an EC -50 I’m getting. Just want to do a repaint, better tuners, custom pickups and an EMG afterburner.
That’s not completely true (the neck thing), but i did know about schecter/esp, the funniest thing is that they sort of tried to deny that for the longest time, lol. I owned a esp eclipse and the neck was pretty different from the ec neck, almost unplayable to me (thin, but way too protruding). The schecter hellraiser supposedly has that same neck. I had an esp m2 too, that had a ridiculous, almost ibanez like thin neck, which i hated, lol. The ec50 i tried was like a mid point between the eclipse and the m2, and FTR it’s an excellent idea to put emgs into it, because those don’t depend much on the resonance of the wood. Hell, you could put emgs into a broom and it’d rock, lol.
I might be falling into heresy here, but to this date the most comfortable neck i’ve played is a slim taper neck on a epiphone les paul standard. Sure, the guitar was crap, but the neck was really comfty, lol.
I had a Schecter Avenger, that neck was like my Hellraiser. The other day I played an F-50 LTD felt the same. I guess I just assume the only carved one neck profile.
To clarify I won’t be putting EMG pickups in the LTD, in fact, I’m really looking at GFS Liverpool’s. I will add an EMG afterburner. It’s a push/pull with up to 20db of gain. Like a built in overdrive.
My schecter has EMG, really wanna make the LTD more versatile, but still ballsy.
The last Les I played was a Gibson, with the all axcess neck. Compared to a PRS and a Hellraiser. Bet you can guess which I liked lol?
I’d be at a loss if i have to guess, but i’ll try… the hellraiser? lol. I always wanted a gibson les paul (damn you slash), but i wouldn’t be able to deal with the weight of it, even less with the PRICE of it, lol. For that price you can get a nice japanese vintage les paul, which will give gibson les paul a run for it’s money in most cases.
Point taken. Since i haven’t read up on emgs products in quite a while i thought the afterburner was a pickup, lol. I have passive seymour duncans on my guitar, sounds a lot more lively but you get lots of noise (thank god for decent noise gates). I remember the emg81s were ridiculously silent, i do miss that.
I do want a PRS at some point, one of my favorite guitar players plays one, and my back would actually agree with the weight of one of those (my wallet would disagree tho). But yeah… i’m looking at at least 7 more years of waiting if i want one of those. That and a few years of eating instant noodles daily afterwards, lol.
The Gibson quality vs price is absurd. No way. PRS are nice, if they’re your style. A few can be gotten for around a grand US money.
I had Seymour Invaders in my Avenger. Mighty fine. In fact, that audio clip I posted forever ago was my Avenger through a digitech into the AUX in on a radio. Ghetto.
I’m currently debating between a Peavey Valveking ii or the 6505 …. unless something tickles me tomorrow.
If your comfortable modding your stuff, check out Guitar Fetish they got a 2.5watt amp that installs in your guitar, just plug in headphones. Or tons of effects and shit too. It’s all stupid cheap.
I do mod my stuff (well, electronics mostly, not my guitars), but i do own ones of these (even if it makes me kinda ashamed to own it…lol): chorder.com/images/reviews-articles/6063-desktop.jpg which would be the equivalent of a guitar with a guitarfetish modboard (it has a built in distortion and speaker).
Back when i got it i thought i was going to need a portable sort of thing (long story, ex gf) and ended up using it rarely, not because it’s a bad guitar, but because i’m sort of like a recluse, lol.
As for the amp, it might not be your cup of tea, but have you looked into stuff like kemper’s profiling amp? i got one of those two years ago (funnily enough, because i was offing myself and said fuck it, i’ll enjoy my last months) and it honestly killed all the gas i used to have almost daily, lol.
It’s such a trip that you’re having this conversation.
Today I had a conversation with a guy who was sitting in a chair behind a desk. In the seat next to him was a 1962 Gibson Les Paul. (It was white). I said “whoa. Is that a vintage Les Paul”?
He said “yes”.
This guy is a collector, he’d just spent $3,600 today buying that guitar. He looks for
1) Guitars that he likes
&
2) Guitars that will appreciate in value over time.
Very cool guy. He told me he owns 48 guitars, loves ’em all, and he doesn’t plan to lose a dime on any of them. It’s like collecting fine art or 1960’s era American muscle cars, ya know? Hang on to your investments, enjoy/use them, and you’ll get your money back down the road.
For the record I’m not a Gibson LP person but I do understand why they’re so popular.
I did some YouTube searches for some of these guitars you guys are talking about and man. Really cool stuff. Guitars are really cool especially if you can afford a nice one and an amp and all the effects and so forth.
I am traditionally a drummer. But I don’t play drums anymore. Drums are too loud and they are expensive too. lol. I cant have a drum set where I live as I am in an apartment with other apartments all around me. So that is when I thought of just buying and acoustic guitar just to bang around on.
Its fun. Guitar is sweet fun.
Definitely. Drums look fun, but everyone knows guitarist get all the ass… lol
I still don’t have an amp again, but soon.. check out guitar lesson dot com. It’s free, the lessons are short and sweet. The blues lessons are really good.
Yeah you are right. Guitarists get the chicks.. and singers get even more chicks if you got a great voice and are a decent looking dude too. But me. Well. I cant sing very well. I do Karaoke once in a while and have fun but Im not a real singer. LOL
I dont think I will ever be a great guitarist. but just to have some fun. I find playing guitar is relaxing. I just like strumming chords and picking around and its just something different to do once in a while. I spend a lot of time with computers.. but once in a while you need to do something different. Thats why I bought the guitar. Its just something different to learn about and have fun. I have no intentions of trying to be the next eddie van halen. lol but its fun to try. lol
You could always get one of those electric drum kits, they make little noise. I had a set for a while which i sold (money issues, never got to learn much) and i never got complains from my neighbors (my walls are paper thin). I don’t have an amp either, lol. Headphones and an amp sim for me, otherwise i’d get kicked out, lol.
Damn. I wrote a big long comment then pressed the wrong button and it was deleted. I’ll try again.
Barre chords messed me up at first. My guitar teacher told me to keep my pointer finger perfectly straight, turn the finger slightly so the bony part contacts the fretboard (not the fleshy part), and keep the barring finger as close to the fret without crossing the line. (Right next to F# on an F chord without crossing over).
It kind of feels like you’re “posing” when you finally get it right, but man, it sounds great and you’ll feel a tremendous surge of accomplishment after you play it clean for the first time. After awhile it’ll get ingrained into your muscle memory.
Mastering barre chords will really take you to the next level when it comes to playing rhythm guitar. You’ll be able to slide up and down the fretboard playing 6 string chords quickly. Works great if you like a full sound with quick transitions.
Yeah, I should take the time but in so many songs, they’re replaceable. For instance, one of the first songs I learned was Mr.Jones by Counting Crows. Replace the F with Fmaj7 and boom, done.
Seether fine again, uses a B chord, make it a B5.
I’m full of terrible advice. Try this one, chord changes too slow? Add 2 mute strokes in between. Fills that awkward dead space.
Remember kids, if you mess up, just keep messing up so it sounds intentional.
Thanks for the tips on the Bar Chords. Yeah I have been frustrated over them. Because as you say > that is like the next level I need to get to. I have most of the other chords down and I do little variations of them too and I can go from Chord to chord pretty good too. But dam those bar chords haven’t come around yet. But I bet I will get there someday.
I can pick pretty good. but my fingering on the neck needs some work. I have to like look at the strings in order to land them correctly. I haven’t been able to just feel my way around like the pros do yet > but it takes time. I am still into the part of getting my fingers adjusted to the strings. I play for a while until my fingers are all beat up. Then rest a few days then go at it again. I am hoping my fingers adapt to being able to bang on the strings and not hurt to much. I guess that comes with time. I love how you can just go to YouTube and get a lot of videos of people doing tutorials on how to play different songs. I think that is very helpful because I like to learn by seeing something done. Thanks for the tip. Someday I will record myself strumming some chords and post it here just for fun. LOL People will probably leave the forum. HA HA
You know what kills me about those YouTube videos? I’ll see an eight year girl shredding Metallica or Avenged Sevenfold, and I firmly believe I’ll never be as good as her.
And she’s an 8 year old girl!
Dammit. I should have started playing when I was 2 or 3.