I wish people would stop lying about appearance. It’s a pathetic and shitty thing to do. Appearance does matter, my friends. Sad but true. After all, this is not huggy bears.
I don’t look at things as positives and negatives. I look at things as facts. It is a fact that breeding with me, for example, would objectively be a bad choice, because my genes are very poor, therefore I am of no use to the species, in evolutionary terms. Therefore people will subconsciously (And consciously) ostracize me (Yes, they will, and they have) in the name of evolution and find ways to avoid interacting with me by brushing me off by saying things like “You’re just being negative” and “You can change your life around if you really want to”.
I always find it strange that people say these types of things on suicide sites when they are clearly in the same boat as me. It is like they are just in denial. Why do you think people pick on fat people? It’s like they’re saying ‘You are an evolutionary reject!’ in order to beat them down so much that they become depressed and dysfunctional and never reproduce in order to help trim the bad genes out of the gene pool. Have you ever met a retarded person who reproduced with a beautiful, intelligent normal person who accepted them even though they were retarded out of the “power of love”? No. Because it’s about genes. Genes. Not huggy bears. The world is grotesquely harsh!!
“But that’s just social hierarchy!” Yeah, and why do you think social hierarchy exists in the first place? To weed out the weak biological links. I am a weak link. It’s not that I’m being negative, I am very crazy, I am ugly as sin, I am poor, I am small and weak, and it is quite clear from my experiences that no one wants me around. No one would want my genes to be passed on to their future children through my great great great great great grandchildren, so they protect their genes by weeding out the unworthy and picking worthy mates who will continue the species, again, because this is not huggy bears. This isn’t up for debate people. It’s science. I don’t really care who says I’m wrong because if you honestly think that’s wrong, then you are in denial and there is no point in talking to you because you are just subconsciously clinging to your chances of passing on your genes by not labeling yourself a failure, an outcast, etc; because you don’t want to sabotage your future, because that is your internal drive (to make rationalizations to live) and your biological imperative (to reproduce).
And maybe you do have a chance to live a successful life, but I don’t, let’s get real. I’m sick and tired of being called negative. I have tried and tried to do things for myself and they never work. People don’t need to hear empty platitudes and cliches. People don’t need your pity. As an example, when I say something about my appearance or mental health, I neither need nor want your sympathy. I’m trying to come to terms with the fact that I am unfortunate looking and mentally unhealthy! I don’t think I am, I know I am! This is how I get over it! Not with you saying it’s not that bad when it clearly is, you sentimental liar! 🙂
I don’t care what you have to say about how I can “turn my life around”, because if that’s the way it was it wouldn’t be like this in the first place. If I were truly accepted I would have known it as a child, I wouldn’t have to hear it now from people who haven’t even met me after I’ve been abused and tormented my whole life, by people who knew that I was a reject and a failure and clearly didn’t want me around despite my intentions being benevolent. You want to know why those people abused me? Because they’re not huggy bears!
When you tell someone to stop being negative and that it’s not that bad, it sounds not only like you are invalidating their experiences, it seems like you just want to put them on the pity stool. It’s not that hard to understand. It’s not about who is right or wrong in subjective terms of attractiveness, the plain fact is that there is such a thing as objectively ugly and some unfortunate people probably shouldn’t have kids because they are, objectively, genetically unsuitable. It’s easy for some people to say it’s not true because they are not in the position of someone whose genes are so shitty that they objectively… never had a chance at a successful love life or normal social life in the first place, so those patronizing people can fuck off, because they will never understand. You don’t need to accept it, but I do, so don’t try to ”enlighten” me on your opinion. Your… opinion! I don’t care about subjectivism vs objectivity nonsense designed to undermine what is accepted by fact as the majority that you wouldn’t back up yourself when it came down to it!! No one would date a cancerous 350 pound clubfoot unibrowed midget with anal warts just because they have a good personality!
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I feel like this post is so honest, it’s almost my duty to respond to it. A cage is a cage, no 2 ways around it. Yeah, appearance discrimination is a huge problem in the world. Always was, always will be. But discrimination is discrimination, no matter what form it takes.
I’m a perfect example of someone who’s relatively handsome, but still hated because of who I am. But that’s how life is. Everyone is hated by everyone for something or another. Some people can hide their socially perceived ‘flaws’, and some can’t. Those that can are loved…for a time. And then the pendulum swings, and once again they are alone.
And so we live, and so we die.
Yup, it’s funny listening to people talk about how beauty is on the inside and how they judge for “more then just their appearance”. But in reality, all it will ever be out is how you look, how your genes are. If you are fit to reproduce and continue your lineage. How wealthy you are, how attractive you are, how healthy you are. That’s it. Sad but true.
I Believe In Lookism! Some people would be like what?! That’s not true, it’s all about who you are on the inside. Okay, I get their perceptive, in our society, their have been many individuals who have used their wit, confidence, intelligent minds, or creativity to overcome the negative attention they may have gotten for their appearance.. But for a majority of unattractive people, life is hell, because you see models living perfect lives while you sulk around because you are being judged all the time for something you had no control over, your looks.
My life would have been completely different if I were more attractive, i know that for a fact
I’d be willing to bet that a morbidly obese billionaire midget with anal warts and stage 4 cancer could snag a hawt gf/ wife. (Chances are she wouldn’t sign the pre-nup though).
Hell, I’d take that deal if I was female.
I’d accept that proposition as a hetero male.
(No kissing, hugging or backdoor shenanigans though).
That’s not even accepting then. I’d accept that proposition as a hetero male with everything but the backdoor shenanigans, if the stage 4 cancer was bad enough.
My point was that it doesn’t matter how ugly you are; if you have enough money somebody who’s attractive will be attracted to you.
(Call me souless and vain, it doesn’t matter. I’m a realist).
If I was wealthy and someone only liked me for my money they could fuck right off. People DO have an inner self even if others think they’re unattractive. Christ.
Your inner self is obviously a man trapped inside of a woman’s body.
(No offense, I mean that in the nicest way possible).
Don’t hate me ’cause I’m sexy.
You don’t look a day over fabulous.
I just watched the Pacquiao vs. Horn fight. Horn won, I’m kinda shocked. I thought Manny Pacquiao should’ve gotten the nod here. He outboxed Horn in my opinion. Whatevs.
I had no skin in the game, no bets were placed. I just think Pacquiao got robbed.
Thanks.
I had just gotten off work when I commented here, so I haven’t been watching anything. I’m out somewhere eating pizza now, celebrating the holiday weekend.
Oh yeah, right. You guys are celebrating a holiday up there. Us braindead Americans sometimes forget that lesser countries also have their own genesis remembrance day.
(You can’t really “discover” a continent that’s already occupied. “Finding” land that people already live on is only a “find” from the perspective of the discoverers; the natives simply regard the discoverers as trespassers).
As someone who has Native ancestry, as well as that of some of the first “pioneers” in my country, yes, you are correct.
As to the part where you said a “lesser country”? There, sir, you are very wrong. 🙂
Anyway, my people have been in my birth country for much longer than yours who were recent immigrants, so… I think I win the round here.
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I’m a 1st generation baby, you’re right. Both of me parents originally hailed from foreign countries.
Did I ask to be born? No
Did I choose my parents in the pre-life? No
Did I have any say in where I was born? Hells to the No.
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Don’t judge me on shit I have no control over, simply accept the fact that I be kewler then ewe.
You’ve already established on this thread that you were being judgmental of my country, plus you mis-spelled my username (again). There’s an ‘e’. It’s not spelled like Nephilim.
So now we’re tied.
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Morris – 3
Let’s not forget that if you subscribe to the “cosmic Eve” concept, (the belief that we all originated from one common ancestor), then we’re all related.
Black, white, Chinese, Indonesian, Aboriginal, middle Eastern, Mexican…..who cares. Humans are humans, we’re all related if you go back far enough.
This is why racism is stupid. We’re all part of the same fucking tribe. It’s called humanity.
Neph and Morris sitting in a tree, d-e-b-a-t-i-n-g.
@Necromancer; if yerr gunna judge me on grammir then I’m gonna stop val u ing yer up inion. This bees the internet U know. How Minny peeps on this site b spelling write?
Ayve givin up on spalling kerrectly. Insteed ayem imbracing my inner reetard.
@Morris: Agreed on the anti-racism comment.
Eye wuznt judging U on grammar.
I’m starting to think now that you just get a kick out of mis-spelling my names (whether online or offline), or calling me something else. (Please don’t tell me you still have my number saved under a third-grader’s insult in your phone.)
WTF have you you two been doing?
Oh, and you sound more like Kermit the frog than a retard.
*slips away*
I was referring to ‘a third-grader’s insult in your phone’
That sounds like there’s a story there, but it’s none of my business.
No.
You’re not gonna get a dick pic despite how much you beg.
Pleeze. Just stop alriddy.
I just wanna be respected for my half assed ability to spell. Is that asking 2 much? Porn starz have feelingz 2, ya know.
Women aren’t like gay men. Dick pics do nothing for us.
Sure, Maurice. Or whatever your username is. (I’m typing without looking at the screen. Don’t expect me to remember every single detail.)
@Morris Say “Some people call me Maurice, some people call me the gangster of love.”
Music from the Steve Miller band sounds really good when you’re high.
I wouldn’t. Ssdly I’m the hopeless romantic tyoe. I want someone to like me for me. (Is that so wrong?)
Appearance matters. But everyone has some leverage over their appearance. Get your sleep, and you will look better. Eat healthy food, and you will look better. Exercise and you will look better. Wear clothes that fit and you will look better. Wash and groom and you will look better.
My, how insightful! Never. Heard. That. My point is not about the people who in this situation can be countered with ‘but’s. People who don’t have a chance. Stop trying to group me together with “normal”. I am not normal. NORMAL people can change their attractiveness through altering their appearance. I and other people have things that we cannot fix. It’s not being negative. Some people are morbidly obese and have micropenise! (not me, but just saying) Some people have it way worse off than that! This is a meaningless addition to the post! It’s not about nice words, it’s about what’s practical!
I’m talking about people who have deformities and stuff and the fake “I would date someone even if {insert hideous grotesque characteristics here} cuz I’m not superficial” bit. Not you buddy. Not someone who actually (clearly) has any hope left.
Some people have hideous grotesque characteristics in spades. No one could ever love Ephialtes from 300! I’ve had enough with these fucking people pretending they’re better than the rest! It’s just pretentious! Some people you would look upon and think “That’s a damn shame”.
Fuck off. You’re don’t know better than me for lecturing me about how I can change my appearance!
Tired of this shit
Maybe looks aren’t your biggest problem…
Maybe looks led to this attitude?
Maybe they did. You poor thing.
I’m more than capable of washing myself and wearing clothes that fit, sherlock.
women seem to have more pressure to look good. i always see men that look like the guy in that picture, with really beautiful women. i think women’s motherly instincts play a part in this. yeah, it’s evolutionary. men tend to think with their dicks. you get what i’m saying.
i’m no man or woman so the rules do not apply to me.
I mean, that’s his mom, but okay.
All true but that depends. There are obviously people who have braved the odds and triumphed through life. This guy was born without arms and legs yet his positive attitude landed him a job, a wife and kids:
youtube (dot) com/watch?v=zOzsjEmjjHs //remove the spaces and (dot) to view vid
Of course, this is an uphill struggle. Not everyone has the will and determination to rise through great challenges.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcytqAN9Bo4Lk3oz446rSKLwEtsUwwmRoOB0OAdZVxv9CZ3EDr
That guy appears to have suffered from a random genetic anomaly that didn’t directly affect his facial features or his sanity through biology.
Anyway, I’m a guy and a guy wouldn’t settle for a woman without arms and legs. I’ve seen men without arms and legs with women before, but never the other way around.
I saw that yesterday! I have no idea if the woman had been the guys’ sister, or his p.artner, nor do I know what had happened to her (accident, war, or born that way)? But yeah. Regular man, severely physically handicapped woman. (Mentally she was “normal.”)
Wait, what? He got with his sister?
No, of course not. I just saw a woman like that motoring around with a guy helping her, plus someone else who may have been their child, or their younger sibling. (I have no idea.) So either they were a family of their own, or siblings hanging out.
(Or he could have been a paid caretaker, but I didn’t think so.)
Not everyone has a foot fetish, Icarus.
WTF?
The woman literally did not have full arms and legs and was in a motorized chair, and assisted by the guy. I don’t want to go to into details in case they or people who know them visit this site.
Hey! That’s my gf you’re talking about. We have a very active sex life. “Volleyball”, we call it.
Haha. Nice try, I remember what you look like. 😛
Embarrassing. I’ve forgotten who you are.
Nah, we didn’t email (that I recall). Long ago, you used to post music that linked to a profile page where you had your picture (at least, I assumed it was you).
If you’re curious about me though, feel free to email and we can trade pics if you want. I’m usually “mysterious” but I don’t mind since you’re a veteran here.
I can’t find your email, but mine is my username @hotmail.com
Ok. Email transmitted.
Bravo, Bravo, this was beautifully written, brought tears to my eyes. I always knew that this was the truth, but here’s a thought how about the human stops breeding.
It’s not the whole truth. There are beautiful people that kill themselves or lead miserable lives. There are ugly people who thrive.
Of course beauty is an advantage, but it’s reductionist to pin everything on it.
There’s two things:
Either have charm or be good looking
Perhaps this is the reason humans are different from animals and are not very natural. To use evolutionary theory to try establishing human feelings related facts is a wrong approach. Natural evolution stops at humans. We will be going ahead on our own. On our own terms. Which, if we want, may not include appearance based selection.
Yes, it will. Appearance based selection has prevailed because appearance is indicative of health or lack thereof.
Is it? Appearance is only for seduction. It doesn’t indicate health. And physical health isn’t the most important thing for humans anyway. Mind is.
Wrong… both of those things.
You can actually tell a lot from appearance – that is why humans judge by it. Genes, age, physical health, mental health – all these can be surmised from your appearance, and humans have been doing that for thousands of years. Most of it happens isn’t even conscious.
You can’t separate physical and mental health. Your nervous system LIVES in your body, it is a physical entity. If you don’t sleep, live off junk food and are never move about, it will take a serious toll on your psyche.