well, on one hand some people have a low bar for a miracle. Like if someone is actively seeking something out, such as a job, and they get the job, is that a miracle to you? I’ve heard people call that a miracle…. to me that’s just results. Darn nice results, but results.
Meanwhile, if things start working out where they looked like they couldn’t for a long time, that is more like a miracle to me.
but honestly, even wanting something is a victory, is progress, it’s engagement. Because the alternative is being too tired, too angry or depressed to even want things. Maybe later on, you might want it bad enough to do something, not big something, little something. Little somethings add up. That’s how I got to where I am right now.
getting paid to read powerpoints all day, not a bad gig so far.
A good job is key…maybe even central to a better life and it seems maybe that’s what you’ve found Viking and I am happy for you.
That I think and a significant other…I mean for those who feel it matters. A good partner can be there for you in a way nobody else can.
Those two are the basis for for a great life…ofc good health/friends/family help as well.
It’s funny while we talk about our issues as one usually does….we need have the problem of geopolitics becoming bigger and bigger….maybe WW3 is inevitable given the persistent conflicts and feuds going on in the world.
Hopefully we won’t experience it on our soil….like let’s say Israel does…but who knows what can happen.
yes, a good job and a good SO is key. there’s purpose and love. i would be happy if i had a good job (well one that pays well and isn’t taxing on my body, which is rare since even working in an office every day would tax my body) but yes, should that exist, where i could make GOOD money, where it a GOOD job I like and can do, where I have a SO I love, and a healthier body- well I sure af wouldn’t be depressed. Would my life be 100%? No, but it’d be like 80% and it wouldn’t be shitty af as it is right now.
Indeed…well almost any job can be mundane and repetitive. I figure so long as it’s well paying, it’d be worth it.
I’m also dealing with some health issues and like you said, if we’re not where we should be in our lives it does lead to sadness, depression and ofc ending up in a place like this.
I’ve nearly lost my drive to be motivated to do more things…but then I also don’t want my life to get any worse…so I have no choice but to try to make things better for myself.
Yes and if you find a good job/income and an s/o you’ll feel happier, but as you pointed out it won’t be 100%…..since we’re always looking at people who are doing better than us and wish we were in their place.
well optimally i need a “job” that isn’t a traditional job- like a day trader- that I can make money without having to physically be at an office 50 hours a week or suffer through shitty coworkers or shitty bosses. but day trading is risky. did try that though. need a way to not pay taxes bc taxes will eat up all the gains. and that’s if you traded well and there’s gains. in the US, the taxes on daytrading/short term trading is just too much (any stock held less than 2 years is taxed through the nose).
Ya daytrading is an ‘ideal’ job but requires knowledge, skills, timing, knowing when to jump in a trade and when not to and some risk tolerance….since losing money is to be expected.
For me it’d be an ideal job, but one could easily ‘climb that ladder’ and if you make a mistake you can lose a lot if not all…that’s the risk and why most people try to have a backup job/gig to pay their bills.
You are also right about taxes, they do take a lot…I think it’s like 50% here in Canada…similar to how they tax self-employed people. Still if you’re good at it, then it’s worth it….and you can get an account to help you save more.
Update to my note above-I recently read an article about Daytraders and apparently 93% of them fail and quit after 5 years…only 7% actually succeed.
It’s because the newer traders treat it like gambling and they risk more money than they should.
Ofc it’s about doing your research…some people go in their blindly and that’s why they lose their money.
eternaldarkness4/21/2024 - 10:44 pm
it’s incredibly hard to beat the S&P 500. 93% fail for a reason. And then you have to make gains on TOP of the tax makes it virtually impossible to come out ahead. Even if you make only ALL good trades. If you are taxed at 40%, you have to consistently make 40% to even break even.
Anyway, if you want to try it, go ahead. Not trying to discourage you.
eternaldarkness4/17/2024 - 4:53 pm
1- no, getting a job offer is not a miracle but results as you said
2- if suddenly everything is going well, one thing after another after another, yes that’s a miracle.
3- “Because the alternative is being too tired, too angry or depressed to even want things.”
yes that is me at the current moment. it’s almost impossible to be proactive and having the energy and desire to do things when you’re so physically sick like me. and yet, doing something is what i must bc otherwise i will just stay sick and get sicker. -_-
Clearly your illness is your boat anchor holding you back from improving your life…once (and if) you can fix your health issues, then you can return to work and grow from there.
Additionally if you feel you have permanent disability then you might be able to get gov’t support/pension to help you financially.
I’m also facing some health issues where I am and the only answer is to move…because in my case there are rotten people trying to push us out…they started a beef over something most people would consider trivial….but the world is full of petty, evil, stupid people who didn’t learn to live in peace with others.
Don’t we all. I wish I could quit life….it’s like being in love with someone who hates you, treats you like crap but you can’t leave them and they can’t leave you.
They tell you to go k*ll yourself….but you can’t. Because it’s not easy. Also because of the deep chasm you’ll leave behind…the pain/hurt you’ll cause to a few people that want you around…and need you to be here….to help them keep going.
My life could be better if not for the rotten scum causing my sleep issues-affecting my health, not to mention other health problems I have that aren’t related to them.
But I’ve been dealing with other issues for the past 20 years….Trudeau doesn’t realize how many thousands, maybe millions of lives that he and his stupid gov’t eff’d up because he opened the doors to mass immigration.
Had he left things as they were my mom and I would’ve bought our own modest house (as they were still affordable) where we’d have peace and quiet and no landlords/neighbors to cause problems for us.
Now we’re paying sky-high rents that keep going up and we won’t be in a position to own until I get a much higher paying job…forcing me to go back to school and upgrade my education/skills.
I could’ve been focusing on finding my spouse instead….but here we are, moving from one rotten shitty place to another and we’re forced to maybe do it again this year-just to find some peace.
At least we have the dual-income that allows us to ‘upgrade’, there are people who I’m sure are stuck with a single income and are probably facing bigger issues than me.
If only it was possible to see one’s future, then you’d realize the mistakes you were making in the present, the wrong goals you were focusing on and then re-orient yourself correctly.
Ofc hindsight is 20/20…it’s all so frigging obvious now, but 20-30 years ago, I thought I had time and my youth and that eventually I’d land on my feet and be financially stable/maybe retired.
Fortunately I still have some opportunities I can work on to improve my life, but I’m unable to do much while I live where I’m at.
It’s always the same choice really, either find a way out of the rat race….or keep racing till something else takes you down.
I guess my point is, if you got a miracle, you probably shouldn’t trust it. Things are working out for me over here, my health is ascendant, along with my career and finances. I should be thrilled and I am. But I’m also working my damn ass off.
“It’s like being in love with someone who hates you” – Soda, yeah, damn it yeah. Made me think about one of my major life theme songs “That’s All” by Genesis, I’m not going to quote lyrics, I’ll try to speak for myself for once. I was driving down the highway this evening, feeling decent, wife happy in passenger seat, and there’s this store that we pass every time we go to and from the store
it’s called “frontier justice” they sell guns and have a shooting range….. I mean I guess they could be more blunt, my wife commented they could call themselves “Lynchings and White Hoods”……. I hate this place sometimes. Often. It’s racist as hell. Actually, I think Hell would be nicer.
and I started thinking about the conflict, because my new coworkers and bosses love me, want me to stick around……. and I have to for awhile to save up, fix some stuff so there’s no conflict yet. At the same time…. secret is in my heart, no roots going down.
I’m getting pushed away and pulled towards at the same time, and that conflict drives me a little nuts. At the same time, I’m losing sleep, struggling with diet, struggling with some other stuff, normal transitional stuff probably. But I’m not struggling with the stuff I’m being told to struggle with, it’s all philosophic and lifestyle stuff.
and there was no way to see it, no way to know it but to take the step and to start trying to make stuff happen again. So everything has a cost, even “good” stuff. You have to barter your flesh for everything, seems to me.
I hear you Viking, if you hate where you live, is there another town/city you can move to where you’ll feel happier and safer?
At least you have a spouse and a decent job from what it seems like and you get along with the boss/coworkers…but it appears to be a good situation, apart from some bad people in your area.
it’s going to have to be another state, another entire region of the country, our values are too different from the people who live here. I make no secret of it to some people of course, that if they wanted to make this state/region less….. I can’t think of another word for it, conservative, pro business, anti worker, anti education, and up my compensation such that I can afford the lifestyle I want, sure I’d stay.
But I found a region, state, city, where with what I have now, well, with cashing out a few investments, I could make a comfortable life. That’s near impossible in 90% of the United States for me. I could do the same work. Still, it’s a gamble, no way to know if I could find another supervisor or coworkers as good up there. So I’m not going to jump until I’m sure.
but the tail aint gonna wag the dog. I got the job to get out of this place, and it would take a significant amount of convincing for it to go the other way around.
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well, on one hand some people have a low bar for a miracle. Like if someone is actively seeking something out, such as a job, and they get the job, is that a miracle to you? I’ve heard people call that a miracle…. to me that’s just results. Darn nice results, but results.
Meanwhile, if things start working out where they looked like they couldn’t for a long time, that is more like a miracle to me.
but honestly, even wanting something is a victory, is progress, it’s engagement. Because the alternative is being too tired, too angry or depressed to even want things. Maybe later on, you might want it bad enough to do something, not big something, little something. Little somethings add up. That’s how I got to where I am right now.
getting paid to read powerpoints all day, not a bad gig so far.
A good job is key…maybe even central to a better life and it seems maybe that’s what you’ve found Viking and I am happy for you.
That I think and a significant other…I mean for those who feel it matters. A good partner can be there for you in a way nobody else can.
Those two are the basis for for a great life…ofc good health/friends/family help as well.
It’s funny while we talk about our issues as one usually does….we need have the problem of geopolitics becoming bigger and bigger….maybe WW3 is inevitable given the persistent conflicts and feuds going on in the world.
Hopefully we won’t experience it on our soil….like let’s say Israel does…but who knows what can happen.
yes, a good job and a good SO is key. there’s purpose and love. i would be happy if i had a good job (well one that pays well and isn’t taxing on my body, which is rare since even working in an office every day would tax my body) but yes, should that exist, where i could make GOOD money, where it a GOOD job I like and can do, where I have a SO I love, and a healthier body- well I sure af wouldn’t be depressed. Would my life be 100%? No, but it’d be like 80% and it wouldn’t be shitty af as it is right now.
Indeed…well almost any job can be mundane and repetitive. I figure so long as it’s well paying, it’d be worth it.
I’m also dealing with some health issues and like you said, if we’re not where we should be in our lives it does lead to sadness, depression and ofc ending up in a place like this.
I’ve nearly lost my drive to be motivated to do more things…but then I also don’t want my life to get any worse…so I have no choice but to try to make things better for myself.
Yes and if you find a good job/income and an s/o you’ll feel happier, but as you pointed out it won’t be 100%…..since we’re always looking at people who are doing better than us and wish we were in their place.
well optimally i need a “job” that isn’t a traditional job- like a day trader- that I can make money without having to physically be at an office 50 hours a week or suffer through shitty coworkers or shitty bosses. but day trading is risky. did try that though. need a way to not pay taxes bc taxes will eat up all the gains. and that’s if you traded well and there’s gains. in the US, the taxes on daytrading/short term trading is just too much (any stock held less than 2 years is taxed through the nose).
Ya daytrading is an ‘ideal’ job but requires knowledge, skills, timing, knowing when to jump in a trade and when not to and some risk tolerance….since losing money is to be expected.
For me it’d be an ideal job, but one could easily ‘climb that ladder’ and if you make a mistake you can lose a lot if not all…that’s the risk and why most people try to have a backup job/gig to pay their bills.
You are also right about taxes, they do take a lot…I think it’s like 50% here in Canada…similar to how they tax self-employed people. Still if you’re good at it, then it’s worth it….and you can get an account to help you save more.
*accountant
Update to my note above-I recently read an article about Daytraders and apparently 93% of them fail and quit after 5 years…only 7% actually succeed.
It’s because the newer traders treat it like gambling and they risk more money than they should.
Ofc it’s about doing your research…some people go in their blindly and that’s why they lose their money.
it’s incredibly hard to beat the S&P 500. 93% fail for a reason. And then you have to make gains on TOP of the tax makes it virtually impossible to come out ahead. Even if you make only ALL good trades. If you are taxed at 40%, you have to consistently make 40% to even break even.
Anyway, if you want to try it, go ahead. Not trying to discourage you.
1- no, getting a job offer is not a miracle but results as you said
2- if suddenly everything is going well, one thing after another after another, yes that’s a miracle.
3- “Because the alternative is being too tired, too angry or depressed to even want things.”
yes that is me at the current moment. it’s almost impossible to be proactive and having the energy and desire to do things when you’re so physically sick like me. and yet, doing something is what i must bc otherwise i will just stay sick and get sicker. -_-
Clearly your illness is your boat anchor holding you back from improving your life…once (and if) you can fix your health issues, then you can return to work and grow from there.
Additionally if you feel you have permanent disability then you might be able to get gov’t support/pension to help you financially.
I’m also facing some health issues where I am and the only answer is to move…because in my case there are rotten people trying to push us out…they started a beef over something most people would consider trivial….but the world is full of petty, evil, stupid people who didn’t learn to live in peace with others.
Don’t we all. I wish I could quit life….it’s like being in love with someone who hates you, treats you like crap but you can’t leave them and they can’t leave you.
They tell you to go k*ll yourself….but you can’t. Because it’s not easy. Also because of the deep chasm you’ll leave behind…the pain/hurt you’ll cause to a few people that want you around…and need you to be here….to help them keep going.
My life could be better if not for the rotten scum causing my sleep issues-affecting my health, not to mention other health problems I have that aren’t related to them.
But I’ve been dealing with other issues for the past 20 years….Trudeau doesn’t realize how many thousands, maybe millions of lives that he and his stupid gov’t eff’d up because he opened the doors to mass immigration.
Had he left things as they were my mom and I would’ve bought our own modest house (as they were still affordable) where we’d have peace and quiet and no landlords/neighbors to cause problems for us.
Now we’re paying sky-high rents that keep going up and we won’t be in a position to own until I get a much higher paying job…forcing me to go back to school and upgrade my education/skills.
I could’ve been focusing on finding my spouse instead….but here we are, moving from one rotten shitty place to another and we’re forced to maybe do it again this year-just to find some peace.
At least we have the dual-income that allows us to ‘upgrade’, there are people who I’m sure are stuck with a single income and are probably facing bigger issues than me.
If only it was possible to see one’s future, then you’d realize the mistakes you were making in the present, the wrong goals you were focusing on and then re-orient yourself correctly.
Ofc hindsight is 20/20…it’s all so frigging obvious now, but 20-30 years ago, I thought I had time and my youth and that eventually I’d land on my feet and be financially stable/maybe retired.
Fortunately I still have some opportunities I can work on to improve my life, but I’m unable to do much while I live where I’m at.
It’s always the same choice really, either find a way out of the rat race….or keep racing till something else takes you down.
I guess my point is, if you got a miracle, you probably shouldn’t trust it. Things are working out for me over here, my health is ascendant, along with my career and finances. I should be thrilled and I am. But I’m also working my damn ass off.
“It’s like being in love with someone who hates you” – Soda, yeah, damn it yeah. Made me think about one of my major life theme songs “That’s All” by Genesis, I’m not going to quote lyrics, I’ll try to speak for myself for once. I was driving down the highway this evening, feeling decent, wife happy in passenger seat, and there’s this store that we pass every time we go to and from the store
it’s called “frontier justice” they sell guns and have a shooting range….. I mean I guess they could be more blunt, my wife commented they could call themselves “Lynchings and White Hoods”……. I hate this place sometimes. Often. It’s racist as hell. Actually, I think Hell would be nicer.
and I started thinking about the conflict, because my new coworkers and bosses love me, want me to stick around……. and I have to for awhile to save up, fix some stuff so there’s no conflict yet. At the same time…. secret is in my heart, no roots going down.
I’m getting pushed away and pulled towards at the same time, and that conflict drives me a little nuts. At the same time, I’m losing sleep, struggling with diet, struggling with some other stuff, normal transitional stuff probably. But I’m not struggling with the stuff I’m being told to struggle with, it’s all philosophic and lifestyle stuff.
and there was no way to see it, no way to know it but to take the step and to start trying to make stuff happen again. So everything has a cost, even “good” stuff. You have to barter your flesh for everything, seems to me.
I hear you Viking, if you hate where you live, is there another town/city you can move to where you’ll feel happier and safer?
At least you have a spouse and a decent job from what it seems like and you get along with the boss/coworkers…but it appears to be a good situation, apart from some bad people in your area.
it’s going to have to be another state, another entire region of the country, our values are too different from the people who live here. I make no secret of it to some people of course, that if they wanted to make this state/region less….. I can’t think of another word for it, conservative, pro business, anti worker, anti education, and up my compensation such that I can afford the lifestyle I want, sure I’d stay.
But I found a region, state, city, where with what I have now, well, with cashing out a few investments, I could make a comfortable life. That’s near impossible in 90% of the United States for me. I could do the same work. Still, it’s a gamble, no way to know if I could find another supervisor or coworkers as good up there. So I’m not going to jump until I’m sure.
but the tail aint gonna wag the dog. I got the job to get out of this place, and it would take a significant amount of convincing for it to go the other way around.
I hear you, clearly you have a good plan and the funds to make it happen.