- Have you ever asked yourself, “when would suicide be the right thing to do?” What line needs to be crossed before killing oneself is justified? And once one finds justification for killing oneself, what possible future is there for them if they can’t? This is where I am. Struggling in vain to find a way to end it. Too cowardly to do anything painful, too selfish to give up wanting. I don’t want to die, I just deserve to. I’m not finding a way to cope. The world would be a better place without me. Everyone with whom I come into contact ultimately ends up with one kind of hurt or another. I would sure like to see something helpful replied but I don’t think there is any. Thanks for reading.
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I make my own line to draw when it comes to if I have a right to die or not. I crossed that line a long time ago. I’m struggling with finding a peaceful way to go to. I want to try to obtain ******** canisters and make an exit bag. The Nemb is probably out of the question. If I can’t do any of that, I will choose the third and least desirable option – a shotgun with 00 Buckshot, aimed at a 45 degree angle in the mouth. I really don’t wanna go down like that, but if I have no other choice, that will be what I’d have to do. Ugh!
I’m still pondering if I should try to befriend a vetinarian who has Nembuthal and see if I can score some if I give a lot of money in return. I’m qestioning this a lot. I really don’t want to get anyone else in trouble or have them lose there jobs or be put in prison.
So, for the vet, it’s not a good guess if you don’t want him in jail. I though the same thing about the vet. What were the “lines” you crossed?
The lines I crossed is just knowing that I have many mental illnesses that are incurable. I tried for decades to better myself and get help to no avail. Made me see the world for what it really is.mp since we are all going to die anyway, I want to speed up the process peacefully instead of living a “full” life filled with misery just like it has been for the last 31 years. Plus dying of natural causes will probably hurt like hell! I don’t wanna go down like that! I know it’s time for me to go, I just can’t get what I need,
Dying of natural causes is not so hard nowadays, I don’t think so.
What are your mental diseases? I ask it, because anyway we are all anonymous here.
Oh yes dying of natural causes is still very hard. I watched my grandma suffer and suffer until she died in a hospice in 2010, my grandpa suffered and died in 1995. Plus the psychological torture a dying person goes though must be insane! Also, sometimes these very painful deaths are unexpected, like a heart attack and stroke.
My mental illnesses are – Major Depressive Disorder, Severe Anxiety Disorder, PTSD, Paranoid, Avoidant, Dependent, and Addictive Personality Disorders, OCD and ADHD. it’s like a problem sandwich. One too big for any therapist to bite into,
Dying of suicide is even more painful. I’m suicidal, but I’m aware of that. No lies to ourselves.
My grandparents died in a painful way from old age. The only people I saw who suffered a lot are people who was ill from cancer of other pains or illnesses. I don’t know your grandparents suffered so much, mine wanted to live until the ends, and they were sorry to leave this life.
Major depressive disorder, anxiety, a lot of people have this problem here, including me.
A lot of your problem are probably linked, probably to the trauma you mentioned.
Addiction and OCD, etc, are way to fight the trauma. Did you try EMDR, it’s a very efficient way to fight traumas. In some cases like rapes, it gave very good results, the victims healed. (seems incredible, but it’s true), some war rapes victims in Rwanda healed with this method.
The day where you’ll have your post trauma cured, a lot of your disorder will go, except the paranoid, but this one can be kept quiet with medicine normally.
Dying of suicide is painful depending on what method you use. Nembuthal for example is painless! (Gotta misspell it so it won’t be censored). I talked to my grandma about euthanasia way back in 2006. We both agreed that it would be better to end someone’s life who is dying rather than wait until they die of natural causes. She talked about watching my grandpa suffer and wishing he had the euthanasia option. She didn’t have that option unfortunately. I never tried EMDR. I did try those 500 dollar Attacking Anxiety and Depression tapes in 2004 during a nervous breakdown. I did all the meditation and deep breathing those tapes offered, wrote don’t all my “negative” thoughts, and worked with it very well. Still the only thing that stopped my full blown panic attacks was medication….my depression continued. I could have bought a good shotgun at 500 dollars. I been in therapy since I was 4 years old. I’m tired of fighting.
So try EMDR before going. I don’t say it can save you, but if chicks who have been raped in front of their family can heal their mental wounds with this method, there is a chance you can. I don’t know if it’s a small or a big chance, but if you tell me you have a solution for me, I will try everything. The problem is your trauma, you don’t have many mental illness, you have one big wound. What kind of trauma is it?
I know my brain pretty well, thanks for the advice but I really can’t see how it will work on me personally, my trauma stems from an abusive childhood to a life of rejection and loneliness and not feeling as if I belong. Also horrible breakups loved ones suffering horrible accidents. My first trauma was when I was physically abused at the age of 2 and my biomom dragged me from my grandparents to Indiana. By that time I had no attachment to my mom and saw my grandparents as my parents. I don’t think about my first traumas but it’s important to stress because the first 5 years of a child’s brain development is the most important. Since my first 5 years has been chaos, it forever altered my brain structure. I became a very highly sensitive person. What some people can get over within a week will devistate me for years. All my emotions are strong – intense fear, intense stress, intense sorrow. Everything overwhelms me. Sometimes I get overwhelmed from the seeminglssly stupidest things like washing dishes. This all stems from my brain and my mental illnesses. I didn’t go into much of my PTSD in detail because it’s hard to talk about. If I go into a lot of detail I start thinking about it and it brings out flashbacks
It’s not important how it works, it’s important to try it. Because there is a chance it can works. It has nothing to do with your brain functionning well or even not well. Don’t ask how it works, just try. I’m very sensitive also, I’m afraid to have friends now because of that. I’m a sponge with other people distress, when you tell me your story and suffering, I absorb it like a sponge.
Don’t focus on your mental illness, don’t call yourself a mentally ill person, all I see is a traumatic person.
The thing is, I just don’t care anymore, I tried and tried and tried and tried! My aunt thinks I should have Deep Brain Simulation Therapy. I said – “are you fucking insane? Do you actually think I’m gonna actually let them cut my skull open and jam probes into my brain”? I give up. Thanks for the advice
None desserve to die, there is only people who can’t deal with their suffering. But none desserve to die.
I don’t think the world would be better without you, you are not a murderer or a rapist, you can still help other people.
Everyone deserves a choice
And there is NO justification. I’m suicidal, but there’s no justification to suicide, there are only the sufferings, and they are not a justification, if suffering end up, life worth to be lived again.
I respectfully disagree. I think suicide is justifiable in many cases including the mentally ill. If I was to write law, I’d write it like this –
1. Euthanasia should be a constitutional right for anyone suffering from a terminal illness or who is physically Disabled to the point that there quality of life is compromised.
2. Euthanasia should be a right for all mentally ill people over a certain age (haven’t figured out what age, probably 21 and up), who agree to take a 30-90 day stent at a psychiatric hospital with therapy. If they still wish to die after that long in the hospital, then there wishes for a peaceful death should not be denied!
Oh and people serving more than 20 years should have a right to euthanasia in order to clear the prison population out
No, mental illness is the worse “justification” for suicide, because we are victims, and the victims can’t pay twice.
Why mentally ill persons want to die? I will tell you: it’s because they feel guilty of their mental illness. So they inconsciously think they have to pay for it. Society may have put that in their brain, but it’s so wrong.
Mentally ill persons, like disabled persons have the right to live, it’s to other persons to make them a place in the society, it’s not up to the victims to fight to have a place. It’s just unfair. People are intolerant, and it’s why so many mentally ill persons want to die, they think they have no places in the world.
I don’t feel guilty about my mental illnesses, I just want the pain to stop. I am a victim of my mental illness, I’m a victim again because I am unable to choose a peaceful death. I don’t think mental illness is a bad justification at all as long as the mentally ill are – 1. Sound of Mind, 2. Consistent in there desire to go, and 3, have been though intense therapy. I quality in all 3 categories.
And if people have a right to live than they must also have a right to die.
None says you don’t have the right. But a victim shouldn’t be punished twice, it’s too unfair.
How is euthanasia punishing someone if it’s a choice and what they want? If you ask me, it’s punishment to force someone to live against there will.
It’s a punishement to live miserably and to be forced to exit the life, because if you ask me or any people, we all prefer to live and be happy. To die is not a choice or an option, it’s the only way to stop suffering, it’s not a choice. If I have to choose, I choose an happy life, with a lot of great things achieved, thanks, the bill please.
That’s the point, the mentally ill are not considered to be of sound mind simply because anxiety and depression can alter your thought patterns. So why would any reasonable person make a law to allow people who are not thinking clearly, or not in their right mind, to choose to die. You may feel like you are of sound mind but obviously any person who wants to die is not functioning normally. Humans are hard wired to want to survive and will fight to survive.
Nobody is talking about forcing someone to exit, I’m just saying it should be a choice. To Somebody Insignificant – you can be severely mentally ill and sound of mind. It’s a myth to think they both can’t exist simotanously. And of course these mental illnesses alters thought patterns. As in my case and many others, it’s not the mental illness, but the suffering that stems from it, makes us want to die. You can use the same argument about the terminally ill – like mental illness, having a terminal illness may alter someone’s thought patterns and make them want to die. Not because there physical illness alone, but the suffering that stems from it.
Why are you so quick to assume I’m not a “murdering, rapist, pedophile”? And if I were, would I then be justified in suicide?
So, if you are a murderer (or rapist or pedo), yes, the world can be a better place without you, but if you are a murderer who think the world would be better without him, it means you are not psychopath, because you know what is empathy, you are not a monster, because real monsters don’t care about the world being a better place without them. So even if you murdered people, it’s not hopeless for you. So, the simple fact you think that, I know you’re wrong. I
Well said *Applause*
Hmmm what about the deluded who murder thinking they are doing the world good, but in reality they’re not?
Depends who they murder, maybe they are doing the world good.
No. Murdering is wrong. If they want to make the world a better place, it’s better to teach love and empathy to trauma children, so they don’t become psychopaths murderers.
They’re are delusional, who they kill makes no sense to us. But in they’re mind they’re making the world a better place. They’re still a psycho don’t u think?
“They’re are delusional, who they kill makes no sense to us. But in they’re mind they’re making the world a better place. They’re still a psycho don’t u think?”
So the delusional who want to kill themselves to make the world a better place are psycho’s. In their mind they don’t deserve to live or they don’t want to live, are they sane?
Huh I never said we’re deluded. I was responding to frenchys comment->but if you are a murderer who think the world would be better without him, it means you are not psychopath, because you know what is empathy