(Sorry for the sarcastic title; I use humor to cope.)
Hello, I’m Ghostly. That’s my username in place of my usual, more personal one. I feel like this may be the best place on the web to deal with suicide openly and honestly, so here I am supporting those who feel alone in this, and potentially talking people through some tough times, and I’m glad that’s what’s going on here. You are all very kind.
Maybe “helping people” is an overstatement, or a little premature. I’m just glad there is some forum to talk on that isn’t monitored to death or trashed by trolls and idiots. I’d like to tell you a little bit about my situation (and there goes the positive overtone), and I’m happy when you guys share too.
I have always been unhappy with family, down on myself, and disconnected from the positive feelings that make the world go around (in the sense that I was always mentally removed or not reciporative of people’s advances). So I was a loner, and a daydreamer. I’d sit on the bench, maybe talking with my friend or staring at a bug. This would inspire people to come up to me.
“What’s wrong with this guy….Hey, [John], are you okay?” They’d ask.
“Yeah, I’m fine.” And I’d raise my eyebrows as if awaiting something more.
“Uh… you want to play basketball?”
“No thanks.”
That was the story of my life for my later childhood, and I really was “fine.” I guess it’s easy to pull through when you’ve only got kid stuff on your plate. After that, I was an angsts teenager, pretty typical for a nerd, except removed and deeply lonely. Downing fast food by the pound to grow bigger, liking fast car rides and amusement parks.
Then I got all demotivated and just played videogames and read all day. I started to prefer electronic communication to real life, because I was disappointed in the evils of human nature and the abundance of harmful delusions and innacuracies. How did it come to be this way? What enjoyment can I squeeze out of life as long as I am so sensitive? The answer was just physical things, and I am no rock star, I will tell you that much.
Now I’m here. Washed up early, depressed, lonely. A disappointment to my family, and a disappointment to my community. I’d sat I’m getting tired if videogames, reading, and the internet, but that is very dangerous. Those are the only things I live for day-to-day.
Socially, I am the Omega. My genes are not good, and neither is my contribute to damn-near anything substantial. My mom (the only person who gives two shits, aside fron my ex-friends) tries to encourage me to take pride in my work or try and find work that I do take pride in, but as a nihilist, it’s impossible. Does anybody here know what it’s like to fall into the moral, existential emptiness and learn that unless you get shocked out of it, it will be with you forever? Do you know what it’s like to know the world in which you live someone was just constructed in order to make you feel better? Then have them look back at you and say they pity you. They used you as well. I’m sure most people of age know that one these days.
So death is favorable to life at the moment. That’s why when I almost blew up, I went to a mental hospital. That was fun. I’ll never go back. I can’t even discuss the hopelessness with him because he belittles it in order to protect himself. He was suicidal too.
Maybe I’ll live on and prosper, and maybe I’ll turn out to be a second-rate, unattractive loser my whole life. As far as I’ve seen, there’s no place in this world for the latter.
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You can find new things to occupy your mind like taking up classes which are a great way to meet people. Has to be better than hanging around suicide forums.
There’s a difference between the world and society. Society is a small part of the world. More than that, it’s a short and temporary part of the world.
I can’t help but sympathize with you about the meaninglessness of most institutions within society; the architects behind how things are – in practice – run the world as if it’s a zoo for human beings. What fulfillment is there in work, if that work is monotonous, uninspired, and largely detached from the worker’s desires? You get a pat on the head from the zookeepers if you do well. Great. Just what I always wanted.
So the problem is that by limiting yourself to the choices that you’re given, any possible innovation – that foundation upon which society itself is built – is denied from the outset. Society paradoxically demeans innovation because innovation always challenges the status-quo.
Did you know the original nihilists were the youth of aristocratic Russia, who dropped out of the aristocracy to fight for the elevation of the peasant class, while also joining the peasantry and sharing their burdens? Nihilism is anti-nihilism. The motivation can only come from yourself.
“Does anybody here know what it’s like to fall into the moral, existential emptiness and learn that unless you get shocked out of it, it will be with you forever?”
I do
I am not here because I recently discovered life on earth has no particular meaning, that occurred long before. The reality is, if I didn’t burn through a wedge of cash this morning I would probably be out getting drunk talking to random girls instead of talking to strangers on suicide sites. Actually, we dont even talk, I just post completely unhelpful and irrelevant comments. The point is, whether or not life has meaning is of profound indifference.
Well I’m not hanging out here for fun. When you’re not a functional person, it’s pointless to try and make friends. That’s why I hang out on the internet, and not just killyourself.com all day.
I complain about nihilism because it means there’s nothing keeping me alive except the fuck of it. I’m constantly trying to find ways that I can personally give a shit but I haven’t come across a single one.
We’re all here for the same reasons. There is no unilateral solution, just people being people in a very strange world.
Also, there are no functional persons, just persons trying their hardest to function in a very strange world.
There are still lots of important things you can look forward to. Frankel, the worlds greatest racehorse runs tomorrow in the Sussex Stakes. It’s not going to be much of a contest with only four participants but it’s always nice to watch him. He’s very special.
Thanks, guys.
Maybe when my situation improves it will be easy to cope. If not, may Science give me the strength.
Ok. But if you need inspiration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg–FSBJ_hQ
Hey ghostly, as a fellow armchair philosopher i may be able to empathize with your nihilism. Cogito Ergo Sum? Maybe that worked for Descartes but i can’t bring myself to feel like i exist. I lay in bed asking myself what is morality; evolutionary adaptation? What is right or wrong what can i do am i a monster etc.
I don’t know how to pm on this website but if you’d like to chat i’d love to as someone who’s also been cast into apathy by philosophy.