So for a while now I’ve noticed that I have an “unpleasant” energy. Some people would assume I’m weird or awkward, I feel like I repel people from me. When I was younger I use to believe it was people being intimidated by me.
I’ve been told that I’m an open book. No matter how hard I try to suppress these emotions and try to fake it I show no progress. I work in solitude, where I see people on a daily basis. A seedy looking man walked in and reeked of cologne. He had his top button loose and a greasy looking Elvis curl. I remained professional but thoughts of disgust and repulsion immediately took action. I was convinced he was eye raping me. And I know these thoughts are palpable, so I feel guilt because nobody should feel judged. I really would like some feed back on how to treat people all equally and condition myself to become a peaceful person. I’m so sick of people feeling nervous and awkward around me. I wish I understood myself. I wish I could stop being so fucken weird. I’m confident sometimes, self loathing the next, confused, empty, tired, restless, selfish, fucken whirlwind of pettiness.
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You are asking for help in a place where most people don’t even have a social life to begin with.
Please help if you can. I have problems with procrastination, which is why I have put off finding a shrink. Any advice is good advice.
as a morphing of a phrase i often use in gaming (which i picked up from someone else):
“just be 10% more pleasant.”
(the original phrase was: “just be 10% more Pro.”)
Also: you can’t stop people from imagining what they will… “eye rape” isn’t going to cause you any ill effects. Unless of course you were being literal… in which case, you probably should avoid placing anything into your ocular cavity.
You are a gamer? I would’ve never guessed, a linguistic troll yes. lol.
Getting “eye raped” is only bad when the wrong person is doing it to you.
true, but me being so judgemental remains in the equation leading to inequality and guilt. If anything it gives me satisfaction to shut down a good looking guy that walks in and thinks he can stare into my eyes, so rude and cocky. smh
I used to make a habit of mentally undressing women while on leave. Well, hey…fraternisation is not smiled upon in the military, what’s a man to do whilst in transition? Yeah, I know. I could’ve had a good time with any woman I wanted, I just didn’t have the time.
I like how you assess things, too many people are wearing their grey tinted shades these days. I wouldn’t say you’re being unpleasant, more calling it how you see it. You remained professional in the face of it all; lesser mortals would’ve ended up unemployed. You sound like me in many ways, actually…in every way. And since I have many of those same traits – I guess I really can’t help.
Your username though… I can’t get that damn song out of my head now.
Over-analysing leads to caring too much about nothingness and insanity. In this case I’m just applying trial and error to really pin point the root of this “unpleasantness”.
-My username? Well that explains why I am so tired, because I’ve been running through yo head lol.
The only way to find a good shrink is to set appointments with them. I’ve had recommendations that turn out to be horrible. Talk to one and if it’s not a fit, ask them for another recommendation. It’s like trying on clothes, you can get an idea but you have to try it on to know if it’s a good fit.
LoL thankyou, I’ve got to learn firstly to stop procrastinating and take initiative. There is so much unexplained fear and disorder in my life and mind I would be lying to myself if I said “I’ll try it tomorrow”
This was in regards to your comment response. My tablet sucks so I apologize for the confusion.
Freakiness can only be cured by a spell caster, not a shrink. Visit the Temple of Answers website and you’ll find that they’ve cured many weirdoes.
If you don’t like something about someone, is there any obligation to pretend otherwise? If it’s a business situation, then yeah, you should try to treat them like you don’t notice whatever you find unappealing about them. No matter how greasy or eye-raping you might think they are, they’re just people too, trying to get through each day, trying to find a way to reach whatever makes them feel good.
If you think someone is “thinking of doing things to/with you,” and you don’t like that, then stop imagining them doing things to you.
Aesthetic advantages come with a cost, but that cost doesn’t offset the potential benefits too much, except in extreme circumstances.
If people think you look good, there’s nothing wrong with that, and you bear no obligation to participate in anyone’s fantasies… but you can’t stop them from thinking it, which isn’t the same as doing it, which means you shouldn’t worry about it.
Maybe take it as a compliment and learn to laugh it off, instead of being appalled or upset or offended.
How do I do this? Its really hard without feeling really stupid like I’m lying to myself. What particular steps do I take. I hate being so judgemental it amplifies everything that I hate about my lack of control. I don’t even know where it came from. I don’t remember ever learning to be like that when I was younger and now I feel like I’m being somewhat vain and narcissistic, what a head fuck.
A spell caster? How do I sign up? Could this really be the answer to my problems?
Well, sorry about that. It’s just I saw your name and I was like “oh great…”, no amount of loud guitar playing seems to be drowning it out either.
A cause and effect approach seems prudent enough, although going by this interaction alone, it may be overkill. I’m not sure, but you seem like a good person. I had a friend who shared these traits also and she ended up isolated herself from everyone as she felt she took everything for granted and a lack of self worth on her part. I guess if we’re willing to change (and instill some effort) then I’m certain we can make it so.
A this point I’m heading in the same perpetual cycle as your friend.
Well… i think it starts with accepting yourself, and that you feel ways about stuff. Extend this to others: they feel ways about stuff, and they may not always understand why they feel whatever they do, or may feel things that “telegraph,” without them wanting to show it… it’s possible that guy you mentioned might even have moments of self-doubt, and sometimes feel like “man, i get really tired of fantasizing about every decent looking girl i see, when i can tell they’d never want someone like me…” Possible, maybe not likely. I know i’ve had that thought a few times… but hey, i accept that i feel ways about stuff. I like attractive women, some of whom i would have to guess either don’t realize i like them, or would be upset by such a notion, or both… but surely some of them must notice me looking a bit closer, a bit more intently, without necessarily being offended or disgusted. Either that or some of them are just really good at hiding their disgust. Or i’m really good at disguising my attraction “tells.”
Perhaps you should journey inward, and try to figure out what it is you don’t like, and why you don’t like it… and then try to allow yourself to be yourself, and people to be themselves, and don’t worry about it, unless something is actually happening to you.
Some people (not just “greasy” men) think of sex constantly. Doesn’t mean they’re salivating over you, just means it’s likely they’re sizing you up, looking for flaws, entertaining a notion, simply because that’s what they like and are interested in pursuing. The only time you should have to worry about it is if their thoughts become actions without your consent. Most people are aware of the harsh penalties attached to such behaviors, and will refrain from doing any such thing, even if they “really really want to.”
If people look at you and like what they see, that’s a good thing. If someone you don’t find appealing, displays signals you don’t want, you don’t have to act on them, and you don’t have to imagine just how horrible of an experience being with that person might be. You already decided you didn’t want that, so stop thinking about it. Think about something else. 😉
Thankyou clev,
Acceptance. How can something so simple be so hard for me to apply. Give me a simple task and I will undoubtedly wire my brain into an incorrect conditioned response. I feel so inadequate. I am in the worst head space at the moment, I think I’ll go watch some clips on suicide and distraught parents to snap me out of this suicidal trance.
Thanks again 🙂
“I wish I understood myself”
Maybe that is the first step to take. Understand yourself and learn to work with what can spark a smile or make you happy.
Go to places you love and do things you enjoy. Ignore those who you may think are “eyeing”, judging or scrutinizing you.
Once you learn to please yourself and be detached to what others may or may not think about you, you’ll see a change. Set small goals. Take a step at a time and the further you go, the more assured of yourself you’ll be.
I know that I have issues. I know that I am weak or sensitive, scarred, traumatised empty? I know I can be happy sometimes. I know that when I dwell on understanding myself, I feel selfish. I know my pain is my own doing hence my own fault. I feel like that is all I am really sure of.
ah, a term i thoroughly revere: “conditioned response.” I heard that term quite often during my brief martial arts training. It may surprise you (and most) to learn that “instinctual reflex” is almost never the optimal response. Martial arts training is all about replacing inferior baseline instincts with improved conditioned responses. The cool part is that it begins in the mind, by being given the tools to understand how it works, why it matters, and that you can actually modify it to a significant extent, by practicing and habituating those improved responses, to the point where they become virtually automatic. It’s like Bruce Lee said: “…you don’t have to ‘hit;’ it hits all by itself.”
Martial arts training (of certain types/styles/methods) not only teaches you and pushes you through the rigor of properly modifying your own conditioning, but even teaches you how to discover and devise new modifications, which can apply to almost any aspect of life.
Without proper or adequate guidance, almost everyone will “wire the incorrect conditioned response.” Unfortunately, this is a realm of mastery that is evidently difficult to find available masters to teach correctly, which is why so many people are so confused and “wired wrong,” and have habituated bad habits, which then get repeated endlessly, which then often detrimentally modifies both the body and the mind, and even causes the person to encounter even more complications in life.
Instead of legit martial arts training, some people are trained incorrectly, through indoctrination into various social conditioning paradigms, which is part of why so many people seem to be so reliably and similarly wrong in so many ways. Most of the time, it’s simply the fact that they don’t know any better, because they haven’t encountered an opportunity to learn better, or even differently. It’s kinda recursive, after that, because they then go around doing whatever they’ve always done, “because that’s what they’ve always done.” And when you’re used to doing things any certain way, you become accustomed, comfortable, and it “feels right,” and so anything that might indicate, or especially insist, that you do something a different way that what you’ve been conditioned to habituate, seems “wrong,” even if it’s actually right. And so people cling to those habituated paradigms, often without even realizing a better way not only exists, but would be preferable to adopt. Instead, they reject and oppose any suggestion toward modifying there own habits, and try to justify their own investment in those habits, by reacting defensively and vehemently declaring everyone else wrong.
Due to my understanding of such things, i am rarely ever guilty of this. I like discovering when i’m wrong, so that i can change it, so that i can make beneficial modifications to my conditioning, so that i can increase my chances of desirable results, and decrease the incidence of encountering avoidable problems.
So for now, since it’s probably difficult and time consuming to locate proper martial arts instruction, i will recommend that you try to modify your own “wiring process,” by leaving “back doors,” and only applying anything “tentatively,” so that later, if and when you feel like something needs to change, it won’t feel like such an impossible thing to undo what you did, modify or overwrite the previous protocol, in order to improve your experience of living through each moment of your day to day existence.
Try to make things easier for yourself, and try to always leave yourself “an out.” Don’t be afraid to face fears, but always try to integrate an escape plan into your endeavors. Don’t over-commit, unless you’re absolutely certain you should, or must. Try not to encounter situations which require your absolute best, just to survive. Don’t let yourself get trapped in a situation where you’re required to be superman, just to make it.
Your train of thought intrigues me. Thank you si-fu.
It just feels so unnatural when I tell myself to relax or ease up. “An out”, do you mean an ability to “abort” the mission of attempted conditioning if it feels too intense?
Pretty much. Kinda like the old saying “measure twice, cut once.” Never cut off too much, because you can’t add it back. Leave room for error, unless you’re certain you can make the right cut in the right place. You can measure and remeasure endlessly, until you’re really sure you know exactly where you want to draw the line. You can draw and redraw the line, over and over… and you can even wait a while, to make sure you don’t change you’re mind.
During the transformation process, you will need to alternate between intense pursuit and reconfiguration, and relaxed recovery. Do some, then let it settle. Do some more, let it settle. Experiencing the polarity between both ends of the intensity spectrum, helps your body and mind to become more resilient. The only drawback is that by cultivating yourself in such ways, you’ll also increase certain areas of sensitivity, which can be difficult to deal with. But the more self aware and sensitive you become, the more you will understand how to control yourself, and develop a high degree of “self-control.” So even if you do experience unwanted intense feelings, you’ll be able to use a conditioned response, instead of an involuntarily instinctual reaction.
But yeah, pretty much. You kinda have to feel your way through it at your own pace. If something hurts in a bad way, stop. Try to figure out if there’s a way you can do it that doesn’t feel like it’s damaging you. (some pain is good pain; it doesn’t indicate damage, but rather indicates limits without doing unintended damage)
Sometimes you’ll still feel things intensely, and will have to accept that certain intense feelings will produce visible reactions… but you can still choose what or whether you “do” anything. Sometimes you just have to tolerate the discomfort until it subsides (and you don’t want to confuse bad pain with good pain, here).
Do as much as you can, without damaging yourself (unless extenuating circumstances require a sacrifice).
And hey, it might take you a while to get comfortable with being comfortable. ^^
Thanks again you may have better insight into dealing with me then I could ever understand. Why are you on this forum? You seem so logically intact, like as if problems couldn’t exist in your realm.
I feel like I am a tumble weed of dysfunction. When I begin to de-tangle this chaos there is always another section of the weed to decipher before moving forward. I feel like I am un covering so many other scars of scattered suppressed pain. I am trying, I really am. The more I face my convoluted self the more disappointed I am. Its just so much easier to shoot myself. But guns are extremely hard to get where I’m from.
“Thanks again you may have better insight into dealing with me then I could ever understand.”
I umm… okay? lol.
“Why are you on this forum?”
To do what i just did.
(actually, i just thought that would be a really cool answer… that’s really only part of it)
“You seem so logically intact, like as if problems couldn’t exist in your realm.”
The first part of that, is because i’m naturally inclined toward such things. The other part, heh, problems do indeed exist for me. Maybe it’s because i’ve lived within the constraints of my own problems for so long. I definitely have my moments, though, where i feel things i don’t even know how to begin to describe (though i’m sure i could actually describe them, with enough effort… but each attempt to do so is utterly exhausting, leaves me feeling drained, almost delirious).
I find it amusing that you think i seem “as if problems couldn’t exist in my realm.” Honestly, that’s probably mostly due to using all the stuff i tried to explain, above, as part of my approach to life, for so many years. I assure you, i have been through at least internal hell, and have had some considerable experience with physical challenges, as well as having repeatedly pushed my own limits, in the past.
I guess sometimes it makes me feel good to try to offer useful insight to others who seem like they could benefit from it.
Ultimately, i ended up here for similar reasons as most others: i had had enough of despair, and figured it was just about time i should end myself. But you know, “measure twice, cut once…” and i just haven’t been quite sure about making that final cut just yet… though i’ve measured, remeasured, marked and remarked it, many times. At some point i stopped trying to mark it or constrain it. I figure i’ll know when enough is enough. I’ve always been pretty good at eyeballing things (aka visually approximating measurements and other spacial properties), but i like to measure anyway. I’m just meticulous like that.
[“Thanks again you may have better insight into dealing with me then I could ever understand.â€
I umm… okay? lol.]
– take it as a compliment, you have allowed me to approach my psychological “rut” differently.
Nonetheless this is going to be a long ass road. For some reason my paranoid mind can’t seem to fathom any dysfunction in your life. For all I know you could be an empty account holder funded by an organisation that pays professional therapists to reach out to lost souls. I know highly unlikely, but it wouldn’t be such a bad idea.
lol. Well, it did feel like a rather forward compliment… something i’d wish to hear from someone sitting next to me.
But i’m definitely not a professional anything. If i could make a living doing this, i’d find that acceptable.
And it is a long road. If you think of it in longest-terms, there are probably certain issues that might always require some degree of maintenance, throughout your life. But that doesn’t mean you can’t reach a sort of relative stability that can be lived with. Lots of people live with problems (some more successfully than others).
And you’d be right to assume that there is very little, if any dysfunction in my mind… and i feel lucky for that… but there is quite a lot of dysfunction “in my life,” such as physical issues which constantly affect me, as well as environment and social issues.
Sometimes i think that the main reason people are ever “impressed” (or whatever) by my input, is because many of my problems also happened to result in the luxury of time and capacity to quite literally “sit around thinking about stuff.” I like to think that a lot more people would naturally understand a lot of the things i’ve encountered, if only they had the time and inclination to ponder it all. If you wanted to define that as some type of intangible wealth that most people don’t have, i’d be inclined to agree. I just wish i could trade some of it for some of the tangible things. The physical world is where most of my problems are (ie: outside me). I’ve worked long and hard to keep my insides mostly problem-free. But some of that outside stuff still permeates and infiltrates and affects me. I kinda doubt there’s any getting around that.