Just ranting *I think

@distant.road: I think maybe you should read randall’s story, before suggesting that the reason psychiatry and medicine aren’t helping, is that he’s shunning them.

“Providers” and “medicine” are not the highly-effective things those same providers and medicine manufacturers/dealers make them out to be.

Some problems CANNOT be solved; Randall happens to have such a case, and there are no words or medicines that will reverse the irreversible changes he has endured… and from my own personal experiences, “no one ever” has the right magic words to solve what cannot be changed or replaced.

This is why “psyches and meds” are tragically ineffective, in so many cases: damage is done, and there’s no undoing it… and there’s nothing any “provider” can say, to eliminate the requirement to endure the unendurable.

Ultimately, drugs will distract you and maybe give you an artificially induced “high,” or at least modulate your “mood” to the point where you’re less affected… and psyches will merely tell you not to think about it, to distract yourself, and to attempt to engage in alternate pursuits… which doesn’t solve the problem, but rather only makes you seem more okay to others who may otherwise be afraid of your desolate despair.

It’s all a huge trick. I’m perpetually astonished at how so few people “get it.”

It’s at least as unwise, or more, to suggest people pursue false help, that isn’t designed to help them at all, and is not designed from the position of an adequate understanding of why anyone would be so desperate in the first place.

And no, i’m not suggesting they merely suffer through it on their own… i’m pointing out the fact that the so-called “help” that so many people believe is available, is actually not “help” at all, for the people who really need it. Perhaps no help exists, for those who really need it.

“What do you have to lose?”

That’s a good question… and it can easily work against your argument. What can be “lost” through deception and wrong solutions for wrong problems being marketed as effective, when they’re not… is actually quite substantial. It would be unwise to advise vulnerable people to go through the amount of hassle required, and expend the amount of resources required, only to discover that they’ve been “taken for a ride,” and that the entire system is actually a farce. I’d be willing to bet many lives have been lost over this… because the so-called “help” they offer, is not the help that is needed, but is sold as such, as if it were the end-all be-all answer to everyone’s psychological instability.

Ultimately, they’re trying to con you out of as much money as possible, and cripple you with side-effects of so-called “medicine” (which they also get paid to push), so that you’ll rely on them to tell you what you already know: distract yourself, and try not to dwell on the parts you can’t change. Try to find something else to care about enough to pursue, even though that’s nearly impossible without solving the parts you need help with… for which the “professional treatment” amounts to drugs and pep-talks. You can get drugs and “psych yourself up” without needing a “professional” to take large chunks of your money. The problem is: you can do for yourself, what those so-called “professionals” actually do… but you can’t legally write yourself a prescription (which you arguably don’t need, due to the complications from side-effects).

I’ve encountered some psychologists in the real world, and many who’ve studied psychology in various ways, to varying degrees… and almost ALL of them, have “bizarre” views on why people act the ways they do. They think they know so much, but even someone like me can easily see they don’t understand half as much as they seem to think they know… and even less of what they want others to think they know… and i assure you, there are people just like that, who have completed schooling, obtained certificates, calling themselves “practicing professionals,” and getting paid to either do nothing, or mess up people’s minds (or both). This is their job, their career, their business, their livelihood… so of course they’re going to want you to think their service is useful and valid… but all they really do is try to “psych you up,” and recommend “mind meds” if their mind games don’t work.

Psychology as academia is interesting; psychology as a business, is a sham. I think they confuse and drug more people than they actually successfully “cure.” In fact, that’s the whole point of why i was disagreeing in the first place: some things cannot be fixed. And in those cases, what can you really tell someone, aside from “suck it up, try not to think about it, maybe try such and such drugs…” ?

“I would caution you not to suggest others pursue a solitude and lonely path. ”

Oh really? what if “solitude and loneliness” is the only available existence? Is death better? If it’s “choose between misery and death,” then what should i recommend? I have to recommend whatever the person wants; some people are unwilling to exist miserably until death; they want out Now, if that’s how it’s going to be.

Life is all about choices: if you’re not born in fortunate circumstances, you can choose either misery or death (but it’s a trick, because death will happen regardless… so, what will it be? More Misery AND death? Or: As little misery as possible, prior to death?).

And yeah… if people don’t “suck it up” and get touch real quick, they’re going to lose a lot more of what makes any improvement possible. So the faster you “get over it” and “move on,” the more chance you have of a greater amount of partial recovery. For some people, they have already fallen too far, lost too much, and stayed down too long… too much damage is done, and too little ACTUAL HELP exists, and that which scarcely does, is often unattainable, and out of reach.

If you’re not tough enough, life will kick your ass, knock you down repeatedly until you can’t get up, proceed to kick you while down, until you’re dead… and there’s no getting around that. So yeah. “Suck it up.” Success takes a degree of passionate conviction, ambition, persistence, determination, which most “depressives” have already lost, and lack any source for proper motivation to reconstruct it.

They need a reason to go beast-mode, a potentially, reliably successful avenue through which to focus their energy, and both the knowledge and understanding, as well as the resources, to take proper care of both their bodies and minds, so that they can persist in a self-sufficient manner, rather than remaining reliant upon “help,” which, unfortunately, often does not even exist.